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必须告诉你,哈工大被美国10043禁令限制了,如果去了哈工大等工信部高校,将来无法到美国甚至欧洲留学!除非你非常确定自己将来一定不会出国,否则千万别去。同档次还有很多其他学校可以选呀,多给自己留条路!
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' X' m! u9 {. y' a( H2 d9 |( L都几年了,居然还有这么多人不知道10043禁令!在此科普一下,美国在2020年5月出台了10043禁令,被10043禁令限制的学校的学生,将来都不能到美国和五眼联盟国家留学,现在欧洲签证甚至都有影响了!2024年10月,ETH苏黎世联邦理工限制中国17所大学到瑞士留学!10043禁令主要限制国防七子和北邮的学生出国留学,国防七子是指北京航空航天大学、北京理工大学、哈尔滨工业大学、哈尔滨工程大学、南京航空航天大学、南京理工大学、西北工业大学!从2020年开始,以上这几个学校的学生就不能去美国留学了!
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8 _3 m, m) L, j9 r: I$ N$ N这些学校的招生老师在招生时故意隐瞒不能出国留学的这些信息,实在太可恶了!!!
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千万不要低估10043的威力和破坏力,这是我想说的主题!先说态度:我也认为10043不合理、只不过“我认为”没用,关键是“美国认为”!10043不仅仅是堵死了去美国的路那么简单,而是美国在用它的影响力在无形中封杀(尽管其本意并非如此,反正中美互相不免签)!9 ?3 I! w- @- x. u, i
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7 {1 t$ _% H* q, T" ]而且就算纯混国内,也要吸取统战价值的思路,这是我第二点要说的:国内职场,不仅不会因为10043“同情”北航北理的毕业生,反而会因为知道他们没有去美国的后路,而变相压榨和欺辱!别人在大厂敢跟领导拍桌子,因为拍完了就去美国了;你北航毕业的敢么?国内大厂除了美国谁也不鸟,我觉得这就是一种底气和信心!你说我进对口的国防啊、政府部门、国企之类的,大厂太铜臭对,但想想同样对口的地方,别的好大学都是系里前几名出国让出来保研、就业名额,只有10043这些学校系里前几名也在那里卷,无形中还是降低了机会!10043真的那么糟糕么?其实未必。我认为是一种魔咒一般,其实没多大影响力,但因为堵死了一条路,导致整体的感觉和体验会非常不舒服!至于认为10043反而说明“这几个学校有水平的”,还是建议去当华为粉,做自媒体,学啥子计算机哦!美国在这件事情上确实不厚道、有歧视、伤及无辜——尤其我认为,10043应该至少留出4年以上的Grace Period(宽容期),那几年报北航北邮的想出国的冤枉死了! a1 n% e2 X* G8 Y3 _5 o0 F# [; h
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$ W, b3 t1 X( z% Y0 \9 T你可以不去美国,但至少要给自己留个后路。高中刚毕业你可能觉得自己以后绝对不会出国,出国离自己太远。但上着学你看到朋友圈里曾经的高中同学一个NYC一个LA,你会慢慢改变心态的。或者毕了业在公司996期间刷着脉脉的时候看到有湾区码农晒offer package bonus的时候,你会再一次动摇。这玩意儿跟长期base北京的人的北京户口一样,刚开始你觉得买不起房以后也不结婚不生孩子所以不需要,但万一哪天你需要了,就t喵的卡死你
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* W& @+ e7 M0 O! q. D) e9 N18岁的你现在不想出国,不代表22岁的你不想。就不提那种为了更好的生活,更高的收入想润的,或者有其他想法,也不提你想读博将来追求更高的学术成就。
/ s: L% a( K8 f4 N# C单就研究生升学而言,你不想出国万一考不上研又保不上研呢?考到北航北理的分,你能选择深造的大陆高校很少了,最起码本校及以上的学校吧,这都卷成麻花了,去了的都是高分进去的,别对自己太自信。家里能支持的,很多都是考研,留学两手准备。早点工作赚钱比你二战好多了。
- f# y: J0 Z: N4 j再者说你说你家里穷的叮当响,这辈子不去留学,那你还是慎重选择。你不去,你同学要出去的,相同保研率的情况下,你们班在保研区间的相当一部分人是想出国的。所以可能区别就是前30%可以保研和前35+%可以保研的区别。6 c4 \) V* K' U! ~
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延伸阅读:
: {6 X7 v# s1 y0 x/ c哈工大深圳cs本科未来五年还有可能去美国top30留学吗? https://www.zhihu.com/question/450619146" Q$ R3 o. ~1 z4 ]& X# C) l
浅谈10043:针对特定学校的留美禁令 https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/636182518
5 |+ [3 I7 c1 |- Z3 N% M1 C10043高校出国限制具体体现在哪? https://www.zhihu.com/question/623191875
1 ^; s8 ?: B2 X& j南大计算机系还是北航计算机系? https://www.zhihu.com/question/40858 B1 I' R1 i) g# n k4 `# b# ^* I, D
参考资料:
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2, https://www.zhihu.com/question/408539522/answer/3085545695
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