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协和医学院副院长杜斌教授曾经在《柳叶刀》发表文章批评4+4培养模式

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发表于 2025-5-3 22:29:46 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
好家伙,不到《新英格兰》批评4+4,到老英格兰批评4+4。

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 楼主| 发表于 2025-5-3 22:30:28 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
学术杂志估计也是有预定立场的

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发表于 2025-5-3 23:02:17 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
旧大陆看不惯新大陆,

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发表于 2025-5-3 23:02:54 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
饶毅最近小作文不是在帮王辰说好话吗

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NatureBoy 发表于 2025-5-3 23:02
饶毅最近小作文不是在帮王辰说好话吗

油锅泼水,

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发表于 2025-5-4 06:48:18 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
独孤九剑破刀式 发表于 2025-5-3 22:30
学术杂志估计也是有预定立场的


主编的立场,基本就是期刊的立场,
期刊的主编,换届是学术话语权的争夺,
人文社科如此,甚至自然科学也有,

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 楼主| 发表于 2025-5-4 08:45:50 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
亦可归去来 发表于 2025-5-3 23:28
油锅泼水,

涉及人太多了,饶毅也怕

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发表于 2025-5-4 09:09:18 | 显示全部楼层
原文在这里:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(19)32996-4/fulltext

4 + 4 medical education: a word of caution
Xiaoyun Hu ∙ Bin Du dubin98@gmail.com

We read with interest the Comment by Chen Wang and colleagues,1 which introduced the new 4 + 4 medical education programme launched in Peking Union Medical College in September, 2018. However, caution must be taken in describing this programme as a success, because medical students have yet to graduate.
A 5-year undergraduate medical programme is common in China and has also achieved high standards of education for doctors in Europe and Australia,2 highlighting the potential for adopting pathways other than the US 4 + 4 model. Student experiences from these countries should be carefully studied to improve the quality of medical education in China, rather than developing a new programme without adequate infrastructural support.

The US 4 + 4 model was adopted in 2005 by Zhejiang University,
but with little improvement in the quality of education. Medical education should not be designed to support leading medical talents, but rather to qualify medical doctors. Given the stress and challenges that Chinese doctors experience,3 the new 4 + 4 model is unlikely to recruit excellent college graduates. Institutional leadership within medical education should convince the Chinese Government to acknowledge the difference between professional and academic degrees, thereby rewarding medical students for their academic achievements and continued learning. Moreover, medical students are expected to spend their last year as interns, which might further compromise the quality of education by shortening the study duration of basic and clinical medicine.
We declare no competing interests.

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发表于 2025-5-4 11:20:18 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
看了原文就是浙江巴德年没软用,瞎折腾

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发表于 2025-5-4 11:23:07 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
所以协和4+4应该持谨慎态度。

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NatureBoy 发表于 2025-5-3 23:02
饶毅最近小作文不是在帮王辰说好话吗

饶毅自己的女儿饶婕也一样享受学术特权,

在美国上高中就发了6篇SCI,

虽然现在在做制片,

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发表于 2025-5-4 15:31:09 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
USeen 发表于 2025-5-4 14:08
饶毅自己的女儿饶婕也一样享受学术特权,

在美国上高中就发了6篇SCI,

是能力走不了学术的路?还是喜好不在学术?
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